I've had a few people ask me to point to exactly where the Ontario Government reveals the number of abortions performed in Ontario in 2014-2015.
This information is on page 26, Appendix A: of the Ontario government's Factum. The link for the government's factum (Ministry of the Attorney General) is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_QDsYLWnwO6QU9HQ01ISDdLSWc/view
Appendix A: DATA RE PROVISION OF ABORTION SERVICES
NUMBER OF ABORTION SERVICES (15) BILLED IN ONTARIO IN FISCAL YEAR 2014-2015: 45,471
(15) Total number of services billed under OHIP Billing codes: A920A, P001A, S752A AND S785A
I have since then asked the Minister Eric Hoskins to provide me with a further breakdown of these abortions by hospital, clinic, and physcians's offices.
Wednesday, February 8, 2017
Friday, February 3, 2017
Defunding abortion worries the Ontario government
I noticed something very interesting during our court session on Wednesday. The government's lawyer, throughout his arguments to the judge, kept bringing up the notion of defunding abortion.
Remember that one of the government's arguments is that I can still meaningfully comment on abortion without having accurate abortion statistics, or abortion costs or all the myriad things associated with abortion like abortion policy, gestational ages, repeat abortions, etc.
Not only did their lawyer argue that I could still comment on abortion without this information, he also raised what other pro-life people talked about and blogged about in the context of abortion as well. They could also comment on abortion without this information. (Also interesting that other groups and websites were entered into evidence when our case had nothing to do with them.)
So why this continual mentioning of how many of us would love to defund abortion, which also had nothing at all to do with my case? Why keep bringing it up?
I think this finally brings us to the heart of why the Ontario Government chose to hide abortion information in the first place. And it has nothing to do with their health and safety argument (more on that later). By their forcing us to rely on CIHI's very under reported abortion statistics (CIHI reported 23,746 while the government reported 45,471 for one year.) and not on actual performed abortions, the government is worried that our calls to defund abortion might finally get more traction from the public at large, if they only knew just how much we spend on abortion each year in Ontario.
For instance at $1000/abortion relying on CIHis numbers, that would be $23,756,000 compared to $45,471,000 spent on abortion in one year only. (This is an estimate of course, because we don't know the actual cost per abortion. In fact we are perpetually forced into estimating the cost of abortion because we don't have access to that information). That's public money spent on one medically unnecessary medical procedure. And it's almost twice as much as we thought it was. And it's completely hidden from the public.
With the Liberal government in such a mess financially, that's a lot of money to spend, year after year, after year, after year, on the willful killing of innocent, defenseless human beings.
This is the real reason the Ontario government decided to hide abortion information: they really don't like us talking about defunding abortion. Seems like their lawyer did us a favour.
Remember that one of the government's arguments is that I can still meaningfully comment on abortion without having accurate abortion statistics, or abortion costs or all the myriad things associated with abortion like abortion policy, gestational ages, repeat abortions, etc.
Not only did their lawyer argue that I could still comment on abortion without this information, he also raised what other pro-life people talked about and blogged about in the context of abortion as well. They could also comment on abortion without this information. (Also interesting that other groups and websites were entered into evidence when our case had nothing to do with them.)
So why this continual mentioning of how many of us would love to defund abortion, which also had nothing at all to do with my case? Why keep bringing it up?
I think this finally brings us to the heart of why the Ontario Government chose to hide abortion information in the first place. And it has nothing to do with their health and safety argument (more on that later). By their forcing us to rely on CIHI's very under reported abortion statistics (CIHI reported 23,746 while the government reported 45,471 for one year.) and not on actual performed abortions, the government is worried that our calls to defund abortion might finally get more traction from the public at large, if they only knew just how much we spend on abortion each year in Ontario.
For instance at $1000/abortion relying on CIHis numbers, that would be $23,756,000 compared to $45,471,000 spent on abortion in one year only. (This is an estimate of course, because we don't know the actual cost per abortion. In fact we are perpetually forced into estimating the cost of abortion because we don't have access to that information). That's public money spent on one medically unnecessary medical procedure. And it's almost twice as much as we thought it was. And it's completely hidden from the public.
With the Liberal government in such a mess financially, that's a lot of money to spend, year after year, after year, after year, on the willful killing of innocent, defenseless human beings.
This is the real reason the Ontario government decided to hide abortion information: they really don't like us talking about defunding abortion. Seems like their lawyer did us a favour.
Thursday, February 2, 2017
Getting abortion information outside of FIPPA
Yesterday in court, the Ontario government's lawyer stated that in the future the the Ministry of Health and Long Term care (MOHLT) "will release annual statistical abortion data outside of FIPPA". This was stated by the lawyer yesterday, as well as in the government's factum.
And as I stated yesterday they did release 2014/2015 abortion statistics: 45,471.
So I just sent the letter below to the Minister of Health Eric Hoskins and cc'd Kathleen Wynne, asking for the breakdown of that data. Since there is no identifiable hospital information, patient information, provider information in my request, my request should be granted.
I will keep you posted.
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February 2, 2017
Dr. Eric Hoskins
Minister of Health and Long Term Care
Legislative Assembly of Ontario
111 Wellesley St W, Toronto
ON M7A 1A2, Canada
Dear Dr. Hoskins,
As I'm sure you are aware, yesterday we
sat in a court room in Ottawa trying to find out why your government
decided to hide abortion information in 2012.
This is when your government inserted
clause section
65.(5.7) “This Act does not apply to records relating to the
provision of abortion services.”
into the Freedom
of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.
One
of the interesting things we learned yesterday from the government's
lawyer, is that although abortion related information is excluded
from FIPPA, we only need to contact the government and they will
provide us with abortion information.
So
I am making a request to you (outside FIPPA), to provide me with the
breakdown of the 2014/2015 abortion number (45,471).
I would like to receive all the OHIP billing codes that make up this
total number.
I
assume that the billing codes would be similar to the codes I
received in my 2010 FOIs on abortion. they are as follows:
P054 - selective fetal reduction of one
or more fetuses by intracardiac potassium chloride injection
S752 - induced - by any surgical
technique up to and including 14 weeks gestation
S785 - induced - by any surgical
technique after 14 weeks of Gestation
S770 - hysterotomy (may be claimed for
purposes other than Therapeutic abortion)
S783 - hysterotomy with tubal
interruption (may be claimed for purposes other than Therapeutic
abortion)
A920 - medical management of termination
of pregnancy
This code is also a possible code:
P001A - Medical
management of non-viable fetus or intra-uterine fetal demise between
14 and 20 weeks gestation
There may be additional codes that make
up the total number, in which case I would like to see those codes
and associated totals as well.
I would also like to receive a
breakdown like I did in 2010 where the abortions are further
subdivided between hospital abortions, clinic abortions, and
physician's Offices abortions. See here for an example of the data I
received before http://run-with-life.blogspot.ca/2012/03/more-abortion-statistics-for-ontario.html
I look forward to hearing back from you
at your earliest convenience,
Sincerely,
Patricia Maloney
The tragedy that is abortion
Father Mark Goring pretty much captures my motivation for doing what I do. I think what he says is in this five minute video, is probably the same motivation for all pro-life people.
When dealing with governments who hide the acts of abortion taking place in Ontario, who want everything they do about abortion to be kept secret, numbers, costs, policies etc, this is a good reminder to us all, the tragedy of this so-called medical procedure that takes the innocent defenseless life of an unborn child.
When dealing with governments who hide the acts of abortion taking place in Ontario, who want everything they do about abortion to be kept secret, numbers, costs, policies etc, this is a good reminder to us all, the tragedy of this so-called medical procedure that takes the innocent defenseless life of an unborn child.
Wednesday, February 1, 2017
Guess how many abortions were done in Ontario in 2014/2015?
Well we finally had our day in court. I will be writing on this more later.
But for now, I'd like to let you know how many abortions were done in Ontario in 2014/2015.
This number was released by the Ontario government via their factum today.
45,471 abortions were done in Ontario in 2014/2015
One of the government's arguments was that I can already have meaningful debate on abortion without accurate abortion numbers, and that there is other information out there on abortion (more on that later).
This is the second time the Ontario Government has given me abortion data in the past five years. And both times it was litigation that made them release it. Yet they tell us that I can ask for abortion information outside of FIPPA, and I will get it. (I will be testing this out very soon on Kathleen Wynne and Eric Hoskins. I guarantee it.)
Let me repeat that number. The number of abortions done in Ontario in one year is 45,471 abortions, based on OHIP billings.
CIHI reported 23,746 abortions in Ontario for 2014.
That's almost twice as many abortions performed in Ontario than is officially reported. No wonder the Ontario government doesn't like me going after abortion statistics. It also goes to shows how important open, transparent and accountable government is. We are paying for these abortions so it's our right to know how many there are and what we are paying for them.
Mind you that is a total number with no breakdown at all. When I was doing my FOIs to obtain abortion numbers, I was also learning all kinds of statistics that this umber doesn't tell me, like:
Meaningful debate can only happen with meaningful information.
The judge will rule on our case later.
But for now, I'd like to let you know how many abortions were done in Ontario in 2014/2015.
This number was released by the Ontario government via their factum today.
45,471 abortions were done in Ontario in 2014/2015
One of the government's arguments was that I can already have meaningful debate on abortion without accurate abortion numbers, and that there is other information out there on abortion (more on that later).
This is the second time the Ontario Government has given me abortion data in the past five years. And both times it was litigation that made them release it. Yet they tell us that I can ask for abortion information outside of FIPPA, and I will get it. (I will be testing this out very soon on Kathleen Wynne and Eric Hoskins. I guarantee it.)
Let me repeat that number. The number of abortions done in Ontario in one year is 45,471 abortions, based on OHIP billings.
CIHI reported 23,746 abortions in Ontario for 2014.
That's almost twice as many abortions performed in Ontario than is officially reported. No wonder the Ontario government doesn't like me going after abortion statistics. It also goes to shows how important open, transparent and accountable government is. We are paying for these abortions so it's our right to know how many there are and what we are paying for them.
Mind you that is a total number with no breakdown at all. When I was doing my FOIs to obtain abortion numbers, I was also learning all kinds of statistics that this umber doesn't tell me, like:
- How many abortions are being done in hospitals.
- How many abortions are being done in clinics.
- How many abortions are being done in doctor's offices.
- How many abortions were done before 14 weeks gestation.
- How many abortions are being done after 14 weeks gestation.
- How many abortions are fetal reduction abortions.
Meaningful debate can only happen with meaningful information.
The judge will rule on our case later.
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