This number does not include late term abortions that are born dead (stillbirths).
This data comes from Statistics Canada here.
To see the data for yourself:
1) After you go to the link above, click on "Add/Remove data".
2) Go to "Step 4 - Select: Cause of death" and click on "All" twice (the first click all causes of death to be ticked, and the second click removes all causes). Then scroll down towards the bottom and click only on "Termination of pregnancy, affecting fetus and newborn [P96.4]"
3) Then go to "Step 5 - Select the time frame" and choose from 2000 to 2009.
You can read the descriptions of this abortion code here at CIHI, on page 215.
Here is a screen shot of the data. If you add up the columns you get 491.
I believe this includes stillborn births as well. I looked at the CANSIM directory of codes and on p. 214/215 it explains that both stillborns and liveborns are assigned a p94.6.
ReplyDeleteThis particular table in my entry above (Table 102-0536) does not include stillborns. But you are correct that code P96.4 does include stillborns and liveborns.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that table 102-4514 which does include "all" stillborns, but does not separate out the natural stillborns from the abortion stillborns. I am trying to get a breakdown of the natural stillborns and the abortive stillborns.
414 deaths from 2011 t0 2015 under P96.4 and they could all be stillbirths. How are you going to find the information you need to support your premise that aborted fetuses are born alive? The data you have provided doesn't indicate ANY fetus born alive.
Delete411 deaths under P.96.4 from 2011 to 2015 all of which could be stillbirths. Where is your data that there was an aborted fetus born alive and left to die?
DeleteThey are not stillbirths, but born alive abortions, which occur AFTER the abortion is induced. Please contact CIHI or Statistics Canada if you have trouble understanding this.
DeleteJust a correction, the description of the code is on page 235 (it says 215 in the table of contents though.).
ReplyDeleteAndrea I see the description on page 215 of the document. I think you may be referring to page 235 of the PDF doc in the top left hand of the frame. But the actual page number is in the bottom right hand corner is 215.
ReplyDeleteHow can this be stopped???
ReplyDeleteExcellent work Patricia. And now three MP's have courageously stepped forward, instructing the RCMP to investigate!
ReplyDeleteThis data says nothing about babies being born alive. That is nothing but conjecture on the part of the author, who I don't think even understands the data. The burden of proof is on her.
ReplyDeleteIt is not conjecture it is fact.
ReplyDeleteThe data has been verified by both CIHI and Statistics Canada, and in fact was supplied to me by CIHI and Starts Canada.
See The full explanation here:
http://run-with-life.blogspot.ca/2012/12/update-live-birth-abortions-on-rise-in.html
Notice in particular table 2 from CIHI which reports the "number of live births resulting from termination of pregnancy" as 158.
A woman who is contemplating abortion is a patient. She needs to be able to discuss and get the best treatment for her individual case from her physician. There is no standard treatment, yet abortion is an option and cannot be interfered with by outside influence based on erroneous beliefs. We have Nationwide Healthcare that should not be tampered with by local politics (PEI e.g.). Questions related to abortion may be moral ones based on personal beliefs that can influence personal decisions. Politics have no place in this.
ReplyDeleteRudolf, What erroneous beliefs are you talking about?
DeleteAs far as national healthcare is concerned, each province gets to decide their own medical coverage and get to set the parameters of what is medically necessary. PEI is doing this